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Can Men and Women Just Be Friends? Unfiltered Conversations on Relationships and Dating Over 50

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Can men and women ever just be friends, or is there always something more lurking beneath the surface? Gia and Joey kick off "Unfiltered and Unafraid" by exploring this intriguing question, all sparked by a serendipitous TikTok encounter. With a unique blend of Joey's seasoned insights and Gia's lively energy, we dive into our personal stories, from Joey's attempt at a redneck alter ego to Gia's sandwich-making prowess. Our chemistry is palpable, and we want to share that with our listeners, especially those over 50, as we laugh and learn through genuine conversations.

Our debut episode doesn't shy away from tackling stereotypes and societal norms with a humorous twist. From the 'crazy' antics of both genders to the evolving roles in the adult film industry, no topic is too taboo. We even muse about quirky OnlyFans content and our own TikTok adventures, whether it's misunderstanding innuendos or riding unexpected viral waves. It's a tapestry of laughter, personal insights, and the quest to grow our online presence while keeping things fun and authentic.

Dating tips for those navigating the choppy waters of relationships post-50 are also on our agenda. With insights from Marnie Zhang Catalaro and Tiana Zhang of My Mindful Match, we chat about setting boundaries, the art of not oversharing, and maintaining authenticity in the dating world. From debating fashion faux pas, like wearing Crocs on a date, to more serious themes like self-care and communication, we explore what it means to truly connect with someone new. We wrap up our episode with heartfelt thanks to our guests and supporters, eager to continue this candid journey with you across TikTok and beyond.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Gia and Joey's podcast, Unfiltered and Unafraid. I'm Gia.

Speaker 2:

I'm Joey. Welcome aboard everybody. This is our premiere show, so we're finally here. Some of you guys. We've been teasing this for a while. What do you think, gia?

Speaker 1:

We have Pretty cool setup huh. It is, I'm impressed.

Speaker 2:

We're doing this from Space Coast Podcast with our chief producer and engineer, Mr Jesse. Jesse's not going to talk. So if you see me wave over to Jesse, if you see us wave to Jesse, and I'm talking to nobody, it's our main man, Jesse.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay, now I'm hot there we go.

Speaker 2:

We did a rehearsal a couple of weeks ago and I was talking and every now and then I just thought I was talking to the wall because Jesse wasn't talking back. So we had to do a little convincing to welcome him aboard, jesse and I did a little I'm here now. Okay, good, good, good, so good to have some fun, huh Gia.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, ready, yeah, yeah, it's been a long wait. You want to?

Speaker 2:

give a little history of how the hell we got here. You stalked me, I stalked her. Yeah, I did I was a. Tiktok stalker.

Speaker 1:

A local, one A local.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you know it wasn't that I was stalking. I noticed some of her pictures. I go wait a minute. That looks like she's nearby, that looks like my beach. Then I saw a guy with a Ron Jon shirt but that could be, any tourist Can be and then she posted something pretty cool. No, she was looking for a car. I always post. I know she always posts something, something. All right, one of her posts Okay, here we go, here we go. One of the things she had posted was she was looking for a car.

Speaker 2:

Now, if you've had that situation, Right, she was looking for a car Now because I have a little local business here. I happen to know a few people.

Speaker 2:

I got a guy and I didn't want her to go someplace, that I didn't want her to get, you know, misled from someone because, yeah. So for me to introduce myself was like a four hour. It was a four page paragraph to say hey, I'm a legit, I'm not gonna scam, it was a resume. It was a resume just so she could believe that it was me, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2:

That was day one, and then, and then I would follow her, so to speak, not stalk, I was following. Oh, let it go. What was the word you were supposed to say the other day? Stalker? No, not stalker, danger danger.

Speaker 1:

Stranger danger. Good God, I've had enough of those, but I've made videos that they should understand.

Speaker 2:

I'm not there yet, but then she did a cool post where she asked can a guy and a girl, or a girl and a guy? Can they be?

Speaker 1:

friends man friend, man friend, man friend.

Speaker 2:

And my response was yes. And when I saw that again, I sent her a four-page paragraph and said you're my host, this is my co-host. I finally have my show. As I mentioned, jesse and I we worked together a few years back. And for what a year, jesse.

Speaker 3:

a year and a half where I said roughly roughly that I wanted to thank you thanks for popping him yeah, I mean listen, we've been talking for like three or four years as long as I've known you yeah, that I wanted to do just a separate show and I wanted a female co-host.

Speaker 2:

And it has not been an easy ride. And then when I made a post, not a stalk, she said yes, but you know she's laughing, she's calling me all kinds of names, but here she is sitting right next to me, very kind post, she's sitting right next to me and I said that's my co-host, that's our show.

Speaker 2:

When I read, can a guy and girl be a man friend? I said absolutely. And then she said passenger, princess. And she said she makes great sandwiches. She hooked me. That's all you had to say I make great sandwiches. I don't want to know anything else. And so for the last four or five weeks we've been hanging, yeah, we've been preparing and getting to know one another, right, yeah, and what was it the other day you said to me we were having lunch together on Saturday afternoon. What was the word you were supposed to say to me? I you don't remember.

Speaker 1:

No, of course not. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And she's learning. You know there's that I'm going to age myself. But for you old boomers, especially since our crowd, crowd.

Speaker 1:

We really want to reach the over 55 crowd 50 over, right over 50.

Speaker 2:

So many of us grew up watching the tanya marie show and you know they used to have that little segment of I'm a little bit country, you're a little bit rock and roll and um, well, she's a little bit country and I'm definitely not uh I'm not a country boy, that's for sure.

Speaker 1:

so no, when I first met you, what'd you do?

Speaker 2:

Oh, I went into a whole redneck thing.

Speaker 3:

Oh, he did, I went right into redneck and I just said don't let him go.

Speaker 1:

I'm sitting there.

Speaker 2:

But that's our show. And then later on.

Speaker 1:

Hey, do you know what kind of truck I used to drive? It doesn't matter.

Speaker 3:

That doesn't make you a red, is that?

Speaker 2:

you know, I come to you, I'm 63, she's. She's much younger and, uh, I'm an old spirit at heart, as she says.

Speaker 1:

And I'm her man and I'm her man and I'm her man friend my man friend and I'm her man friend. She's yet to make me a platonic friends. It's one of the cool things, yeah, but she has yet to make me a sandwich.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, no, she talks about making a sandwich, but have you made me a sandwich?

Speaker 1:

No, no sandwich, no. So anyway, I make a good sandwich too.

Speaker 2:

Oh, good, good, good, because I eat a good sandwich. But we're going to bring you down a good path. We have a great concept here we do. Part of the show was when she brought out the fact that she was looking for a man friend. And can people be platonic? You hit that certain age and you go. Well, what's out there for me? And so we decided let's do a show and let's share our experiences. And we'll have some guests that will share their experiences. And there's so many people out there that at 50, 55, their life is changing. They're alone for the first time, they might be widowed, they might be divorced, empty nesters for the first time. So we're going to be bringing on some guests that have experience in all that field Fun guests.

Speaker 3:

Fun guests that are experiencing that Good information.

Speaker 1:

Yeah so Fun guests that are experiencing that Good information.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so just come along for the ride. Some days the ride might be a little bumpy, but that's life. You know, Right Gia.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Life isn't easy, but we want to bring you some fun, absolutely, and Gia's got some stories and she's already said that oh, I've got some storiesia's got some stories and she's already said that, oh, I've got some stories, she's got some TikTok stories and we can't go to certain places because you know who knows lurking behind bushes.

Speaker 1:

So I I don't know. Oh, I forgot about, oh, that story down from when I was down the beach. Okay, we'll use that in some way. That that was a good one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, so we just hope you enjoy our ride. Yes, and what else we got Gina It'll be a blast.

Speaker 1:

We've got our friends. We got a video from our friends.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we have our first guest today via video and because we're going to be talking about dating and relationships and things in general. We became very good friends with my Mind Match on TikTok, and Tiana and Marnie are matchmakers.

Speaker 1:

My Mindful Match.

Speaker 2:

My Mindful Match. Mindful Match, my Mindful Match.

Speaker 1:

Right yeah, right. Yes, isn't it com com yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, that's their email address. Their TikTok handle might be something else, I'm just playing with it. Well, you'll find them, they're great ladies, and they're going to be in our second segment today, where we'll talk about top five dating tips, and I've already named all ten of mine, which I guess that's why I'm a bachelor. I'm still learning. She's still learning, keep learning. It's horrible out there.

Speaker 1:

I experienced coffee once, and that's a whole video in itself.

Speaker 2:

No, no, it's not that bad, oh it is.

Speaker 1:

I've heard, I've seen, I've heard. Yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 2:

See, I've never done online See but that's the good.

Speaker 1:

I know you have experience. Yeah, I have experience.

Speaker 2:

What are you calling me A male whore?

Speaker 1:

No, is that what?

Speaker 2:

you're saying, I'm saying you have dating experience. Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if I'm going to share a lot of those stories just because you have to. That's part of it Legally. I don't know if I can.

Speaker 1:

Well, I don't know if I can. Well, you don't name names, you can do anything else. That's true. That's what everybody else is going to do? I mean anonymous stories are the best stories. That's true Because you get the real details.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I've been very lucky. The people I've met have been all very nice to me. Yes, they really have.

Speaker 1:

I've been very that's a good thing.

Speaker 2:

I'm just a man. Yes, wrong timing. Timing is everything too.

Speaker 1:

It is you know, you have to be ready. You have to be ready, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

And Gia's not ready.

Speaker 1:

No, not even close.

Speaker 2:

So anybody that sees her on camera, don't even think about it, don't even stalk her.

Speaker 1:

Well.

Speaker 2:

Go.

Speaker 1:

Unless all the criteria are met. Well, yeah, you know I have a list.

Speaker 2:

She has a list.

Speaker 3:

And.

Speaker 2:

I had a side conversation yesterday morning with Marnie over at my Mindful Match and they are lining up men for Gia.

Speaker 1:

They're what.

Speaker 2:

They're lining up men for you. Oh, do they have my list?

Speaker 1:

Not yet.

Speaker 2:

I mean that's something you're going to have to email them, but after today, you know, after this broadcast.

Speaker 1:

They're going to look at the list and say she can't be helped.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know they are therapists and they are clinical. They're up there, they got some degrees. They got a lot of initials after their name. That's a good thing if they can't help you or I then. Then we're in trouble. We could be their main project oh, I think we are a project, we're a project and working, so we're just um, we're just here for fun.

Speaker 1:

That's really what it's about it is it is. It's fun after you get, after 50, what you have to have fun well and that's you never know.

Speaker 4:

You have to have fun, you never know what you have left.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, you've got to admit we're over halfway there. Yeah, we're halfway there, and that's part of it too.

Speaker 2:

You get to a certain age and you go. What the hell You've got to do what's right for you? When you get to a certain age and you don't have it, it's a cleansing. You know, you might get rid of the spouse and the kids are gone. You know what it's time to live your life.

Speaker 1:

Reinvent, revive.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, reinvent, revive.

Speaker 1:

All the.

Speaker 2:

Rees, all the Rees, yeah, rees. Okay, there's a joke in there somewhere, but I don't know where I'm going to go with that one, so I'm going to leave it alone?

Speaker 1:

Okay, go. I don't know where to go.

Speaker 2:

Reese just came up with Reese's Pieces and I'm not a fan of Reese's Pieces, so I don't want to go down that path.

Speaker 3:

Okay, et, did he followed the path of Reese's Pieces?

Speaker 2:

Oh he did, oh he did, that's right, that is right.

Speaker 1:

That's right?

Speaker 3:

Thanks, Jessie. Leave it to your producer for silly trivia.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's good. Good, we needed a little help on that spot anyway.

Speaker 3:

We were dying. So, reinvent, revive, reinvest.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. And the reinvest. Yeah, you reinvest in yourself.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

And you know.

Speaker 3:

Gia's new to this world and for me to be honest, yeah, just to say that.

Speaker 2:

you know, here we are on camera. Gia's my TikTok mentor and I'm going to do stuff that I wanted to do when. I just got out of college and have my own show and entertain people, and that's kind of what we're going to try and do Try. So we also want to encourage you guys to send us comments, right?

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, comments, questions stories. We want the stories. We want dating horror stories please.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, horror dating stories.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like the definite don't go to's the not's, the no's, yeah yeah, and that's what will lead us into that next segment with, with my mindful match. Oh my God, they came up with five top dating tips for over 50.

Speaker 1:

Yes, the good tips too.

Speaker 2:

They are good tips and you know you get out of practice a little bit and I know we haven't talked about it, but you know I was gonna. I was gonna text them this morning and say is it too old-fashioned to bring a girl flowers on the first date? I don't know what would you think? Would that give you the effect?

Speaker 1:

there's so many rules first, I wouldn't have anybody come to my house oh, that's true, so you wouldn't be picking me up.

Speaker 2:

See, that's old school too. Yeah, no, now you meet them. No one's giving out their address.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, no, no, no no, no, no, I'll meet you in public, two counties away.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, no, no, I understand that For both parties.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, not for anything. I mean, safety is a big thing. Yeah, not for anything.

Speaker 2:

You know. Everybody says oh man, but you know some women are crazy too.

Speaker 1:

I have to put it out there.

Speaker 3:

I mean there are some crazies I have friends.

Speaker 1:

You have friends that are crazy. Yeah, I mean, have you not crazy? You haven't introduced?

Speaker 3:

me to your friends yet? No, no, because they're crazy, right, but somehow I hear you try crazy no, I don't, I don't, I don't you don't try to, but you still no, no no, I've been very lucky.

Speaker 2:

Nobody's been crazy that I've I've dated uh no, I've seen crazy. No, I I've not really had crazy. Uh, that's where I say I'm lucky. You know, I've always had. Uh, that's a good thing yeah, no, no, no, no, not crazy um other issues, but not crazy.

Speaker 1:

Why? What issues you can't just say other? And not expand on that because we want to know, and especially if you don't want to expand on it, then you'd want to know more.

Speaker 2:

I'll have to think about that now Okay. Because what might be crazy to me might be just normal or menopausal.

Speaker 1:

Oh, don't even go there. Oh see, See Hot button right there, right there.

Speaker 2:

Did you see the flame come out of that, jessie?

Speaker 1:

Let's not even go there midlife crisis. Men go through the what do they call it a midlife crisis.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, yeah, Isn't it kind of the same thing? No, yeah. Midlife crisis, yeah, okay, yeah. Isn't it kind of the same thing?

Speaker 2:

no, yeah, no, yeah. What so what happens? The guy runs out, he has an affair and he buys a Porsche okay so I haven't had one okay. I don't have a. Porsche oh stop, and I didn't cheat on my wife at the time okay, that's good, that's right, that's right. Oh, that's good, that's right. Oh God, this is day one.

Speaker 3:

So make a note.

Speaker 2:

No, menopause jokes yeah.

Speaker 3:

No hormonal references. Yeah, no hormonal references.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you can reference all you want. Oh, I can Sure.

Speaker 2:

Just not with me.

Speaker 1:

No, no Reference, all you want, I just can't guarantee what, just not with me. No, no reference, all you want. I just can't guarantee what.

Speaker 2:

What's going to come out?

Speaker 1:

What I'll respond, what the response will be, oh my, god, yeah, just don't make it personal. Yeah, it's not personal.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

No, no, alright, but the women are going to be like oh.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's good, some of them.

Speaker 1:

We want responses. Yes, that'll get you some.

Speaker 3:

For sure. Secretly, joey wants to be hated. He wants some haters out there.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm ready. He was trying to fight with him on his life.

Speaker 2:

I know I know, Come on, bring it on. Come on, come on, tough guy. Come on, tough guy. You want to be funny. You got the wrong frigging guy to be funny with. That's exactly what he was saying. Like you can try and match wits with me, really, really. I went to the Don Rickles School. For God's sakes, I grew up watching that. You're going to try and be funny with me. Then some guy, Jesse, the other night some guy brings a Ron Jeremy reference. Ron Jeremy, it's 2000,. What are we 2000?

Speaker 1:

25? Yeah 2025.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, that was a senior, that was a senior moment, not menopausal.

Speaker 1:

That was a senior moment.

Speaker 2:

Thank you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, comment below, if you also have senior moments.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, senior moments.

Speaker 3:

Show Joey some love and support. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So the guy breaks out a Ron Jeremy joke. Ron Jeremy, do people do people today still know who the man is?

Speaker 3:

I mean, I guess, your generation.

Speaker 2:

Do you know who he is, Jesse?

Speaker 3:

Yes, he's an adult film star.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I think he's dead. I'll have to look it up.

Speaker 1:

Do you know who he was? No, I was born after you, Like way after you.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but.

Speaker 1:

I wasn't watching Ron Jeremy. No I only know, because tick tock, oh, what do you mean? On tick tock, they show Ron Jeremy.

Speaker 2:

No, they don't know but they've.

Speaker 1:

I mean there's been references or or jokes but do you know who he was? Well, he was an ex dude, rated ex dude.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he was a porn male male porn star.

Speaker 1:

Right, right, he just was.

Speaker 2:

Let's just call him.

Speaker 1:

Is he?

Speaker 2:

dead. I don't know. I don't know. That would be a Google thing. I would just say he was extra special, right, jesse? Sure, to be polite, sure.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

That's what he was extra special. Thankfully, the roles of men in porn has changed to where you know they value, looks yeah, so you don't have hairy, long-haired guys like Ron Jeremy dominating the film screen.

Speaker 2:

But he was fat too, wasn't he? Yeah?

Speaker 3:

because, again, they didn't really consider the men to be anything but a prop. So now you know, now the values have changed and now you're less than just a prop.

Speaker 2:

So in today's world he'd be in the chubby hubby OnlyFans page.

Speaker 3:

Sure.

Speaker 1:

Is there one? I didn't even what.

Speaker 3:

You're on OnlyFans. If there is a category, am I?

Speaker 1:

If I could make money like that, if I can make money like that and show my kneecaps.

Speaker 2:

Hell yeah, the kneecaps Well yeah, all right. Well, there's people you know they make a lot of money. Some women make money just showing their hands, their feet. They do. So maybe there's ladies out there that have a thing for kneecaps. Please, if you do. It's Gia Joey's podcast.

Speaker 1:

No, gia Joey's podcast. No, no, gia's not on the.

Speaker 2:

OF, no, not the OF. Email me and then, if I get enough response, I'll do an OF on the OF. I'll do it on kneecaps. Just my right knee. My left knee has the scar.

Speaker 1:

No, gia's not included in that. Gia is not included it's our.

Speaker 2:

It's our combined email address. Yes, it's for inquiries. Combined kneecaps could be the new genre on such sites. Could be the angle of the kneecap.

Speaker 3:

You zoom in over the kneecap. That's a freshly lotioned kneecap. You get out of the shower. I could make smiley faces on my knees.

Speaker 2:

I could make it sing, or something that would be interesting.

Speaker 3:

That'd be a whole new podcast.

Speaker 2:

Right, that's episode. That's the After Hours, podcast. Yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 3:

Talking Knees with Joey and Gia.

Speaker 2:

Are you going to come in on that one, the Talking Knees We'll see I might need a moderator.

Speaker 1:

We'll see. We'll see.

Speaker 2:

Oh, dear Lord.

Speaker 3:

I just can't wait until when this episode premieres and we actually see the live comments coming up. Oh yeah, That'll be fun.

Speaker 1:

Is that how that works?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, and again we're encouraging people. No knees, or maybe knees versus elbows, Like you know. Poll the audience. You know. What do you guys want to see? Oh, that's good, then you ask them and then maybe you know, maybe it's a photo shoot of you guys at the beach and your tanned nice elbows.

Speaker 2:

Because you know we're in Florida. Actually, you did a post recently. It was just your knees. It was just my knees, wasn't it your knees? Like it was shining down on your knees. You had your hat or something that was your knees. You said guess what this is?

Speaker 1:

Oh yes, it was a coffee cup. But it looked like a bathing suit, right? Is that what that was? Is that the one you were laughing at? I think so, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was a close-up of yeah, my knee with the coffee cup next to it, but it looked like like the shape of a, um, like a bikini in that area. So it until you zoomed out you thought it was that, so it wasn't.

Speaker 1:

The v region it was a coffee cup in a knee yes, yeah, more of that, more like body part innuendo it was that.

Speaker 3:

You know, it was that because I've seen Some very sexy, like the elbow creases that will make you Think twice. Like what body part. Is that it's like? Oh, it's an elbow crease. Yep like that.

Speaker 2:

You're sick.

Speaker 3:

It's what Watch TikTok dude. I mean, I don't make, I don't make the rules.

Speaker 1:

No, it's real.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I'm on there and I get golf lessons and lessons and how to cook a steak.

Speaker 3:

The algorithm's working.

Speaker 2:

Although you know everybody laughs about you know this whole TikTok thing is a phenomenon. I got on it just to see what it was about. Actually, I jumped on it because my sister had asked me, because my nephew is a singer and their group was doing TikToks, so she said he needs to like. So I jumped on, and who knew two years later that I'd be sitting here with a, with a tick talker, so to speak. Influencer are you creator? What are we?

Speaker 1:

creator. She's a creator right now. Yeah, creator, yeah, working my way up, yeah yeah, hey, yeah, jump on.

Speaker 2:

I need, I need some fans so I can. I need some followers, I need some extra followers.

Speaker 1:

You do, you do. You need to get up there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I do need the followers because I have to reach.

Speaker 3:

Well, followers will always find your content. You just got to post more content. That's relevant.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I agree I know, we're getting there, we're getting there. Gia made me do some stuff on Saturday.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yeah take a picture of those sexy knees, Put hashtag knee cam or knee shot, or you know any other trending? Hashtag.

Speaker 2:

Well, today is one of the rare days that I'm actually in pants, so I might have to roll up my pants.

Speaker 1:

Roll up your pants.

Speaker 3:

Well, you got to get dirty, roll up your sleeves, roll up your pants, whatever it looks like Get it, okay, get it.

Speaker 2:

So if I did one with dirty knees, would that be like a subtle like? Would that be like nasty? Would that be naughty?

Speaker 3:

It would be and it would be very attractive to a certain kind of demographic that likes dirty men knees, if you get my meaning.

Speaker 2:

So do. I do hashtag show tunes as well.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, show tunesunes Broadway.

Speaker 2:

Liza Minnelli and Judy Garland. Mascara for men, all of the above.

Speaker 1:

You are letting everybody know exactly where to find you.

Speaker 3:

Hello, it's the dirty nays cam. You just moved her camera by leaning on your mic stand. What did you?

Speaker 2:

do? I moved things. He gets excited, he leans into it Again it's talking with my hand, so I just kind of Joey uses the whole studio yeah. It's my safe space. We're going to have so much fun and you've got to follow us. We'll have our own TikTok page once this premieres. Yep, but watch some of our videos that we've been doing. We've been doing some silly skits and we'll be doing more of that as well, just to drive some attention to the show. Drive some attention to us.

Speaker 1:

And Joey's TikTok handle is your TikTok handle.

Speaker 2:

So they can follow you.

Speaker 1:

Joey L12. Yeah, I think it's Joey L12, you don't know your own handle.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2:

I don't know either I don't, because I don't watch myself.

Speaker 1:

But you have to give out your handle.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

Is it a handle?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

That's what I call it. It's how people find you. It's a handle. Is that what you call it? Yeah?

Speaker 2:

okay, because you know in the old days, you know before you guys were born, a handle was in a cb. You know when you had a cb in the car hey there, good fella for the cb.

Speaker 1:

You do remember that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my dad had him did he get 10 for that big buddy? We got a smoker right on our ass yeah that's what smoking the bandit was all about how do I find my handle?

Speaker 1:

I just look up your tiktok. I got a tiktok, hold on, I had to put the. Uh, well, mine is geogrant26 yeah, that I know why.

Speaker 2:

I know yours, but I don't know mine is beyond me mine is jt what yeah, it's not.

Speaker 3:

It's not phonetic, though. It's letter j, number two.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, is that it in my profile right there yes oh, okay, so it's uh. Joey's tick 178. Joey's, how do you spell?

Speaker 1:

tick what t-i-k joey's tick right, I thought it was joey at the top, the joey l oh well, what's that one? I don't know yeah that's your. Oh, that's it, that is your handle. Yeah, okay, after the excellent stick.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah joey's, joey's tick 178.

Speaker 1:

oh, like tick tock yeah gotcha joey's tick, not like. I got a twitch like I wasn't sure what to do with that that was wrong.

Speaker 2:

That was politically incorrect no words right now. You know, okay, last last night last night we were out and my friend Susan. She says does she know you're going to be exhausting? She says I'm going to have to talk to her because you're going to be very exhausting. I definitely want to meet your friends and and she's learning that I am exhausting.

Speaker 1:

I'm just, we're just, yeah, I'm more chill yeah, she is.

Speaker 2:

She's very chill and I'm I try to be. I like bounce off the wall a little bit, but not that much, no, no not that much, but it's been a learning experience for each other oh, for sure right yeah, and I knew nothing really about podcasting and I knew nothing about TikTok outside of.

Speaker 1:

I learned just out of.

Speaker 2:

You know, because I never posted. I I would post food big deal and it was kind of boring. And then I was enjoying. What I was enjoying was not stalking people was being funny to their comments and I said, hey, that's kind of fun. And then people started following me based on my comments. I was like, hey, that's kind of cool, that's how it works. And I started to engage. And then this one day, when this lady met this fellow somehow they knew it was a hunch.

Speaker 2:

And now we have this show and now she's encouraging me to do videos and I've done a couple of lives now.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, Jessie, to do a live I thought oh, you do it for 10 minutes.

Speaker 2:

She says oh no, you've got, you do it for 10 minutes.

Speaker 1:

She says oh, no, you got to do it for an hour and a half.

Speaker 2:

Tiktok likes 90 minutes 90 minutes, 90 minutes of me talking, just rambling. Can you imagine that? For lives.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, yeah.

Speaker 1:

They want you on 90 minutes. Two hours is best. I think I'm going to keep that.

Speaker 2:

Set up how the angle. So the kitchen just looked, didn't show the hallway, no, looked really good. Right, that was a nice backdrop that, me just sitting at my desk, like I did the last time yeah, so you learn as you go, so I think I'm gonna do that, yeah, yeah. So, jesse, you know, with this whole tiktok thing now, you know, and andia being my mentor, Sure she yeah. I went out, I bought the tripod. I got the light, I got the little ambient line on top, it's got the handle.

Speaker 2:

So it holds things, so I don't have to hold the phone, oh yeah, you did, it went all in on it, it went all in, I spent a whole $12.

Speaker 3:

A pro TikToker in the making, that's right.

Speaker 2:

That's right, whoever knew. But to talk for an hour and a half even I would it's a lot, it is.

Speaker 1:

You know I used to do those every morning 4 am. Wow, good morning.

Speaker 3:

Lives Every morning for 4 am Hour and a half to two hours.

Speaker 1:

Then I would go back on between 8.30 and 10.30, do another Some of it. I would say I stopped doing that at about 40,000. And then I slowed down on my lives and made a change.

Speaker 2:

Because it is kind of fun. But to do it every day for an hour and a half, you almost have to create like you do on a radio show, right, Well, kind?

Speaker 1:

of, but people always chime in and give you subject matter on the live. So, like mine, always started with just good mornings and you know somebody would bring up a subject and we'd all start talking about it. So it was um pretty good.

Speaker 2:

It would just keep going like that yeah, if you, um, if you want to be entertained, read some of the comments of the people that uh respond to.

Speaker 1:

Uh gia oh yeah, oh my god, they're really good. Yeah, one guy. I just wanted to get through one guy.

Speaker 2:

Well, my god, some of them was nasty and some of them are just rude, and that's one of the things we have to talk about is and I noticed, you know, when I follow my female friends- that are you know that I'm talk friends with.

Speaker 3:

Yes, men are rude.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and then they wonder why they can't get a date.

Speaker 3:

Oh, they're just.

Speaker 2:

They're not going to climb through and says, oh, you look like a skank.

Speaker 3:

Oh you look ugly, oh you look fat.

Speaker 2:

Frig you.

Speaker 1:

They're awful While you're in your mama's basement in your Batman pajamas. They're awful. They can be awful Wait.

Speaker 2:

I should take that back, because I do have a pair of Batman pajamas.

Speaker 1:

You do not I do?

Speaker 2:

I do, but it was from a costume party. We had aama party at the house. Batman and I wore Batman pajamas. They're warm. They're nice and warm because they're what's that material? Flannel, what's the other one, terry, kind of like Terry cloth? Yeah, really nice and warm. I just wear the pants because the top just had the Batman logo. That was a little too much. That was a little too much. Sheldon of Big Bang Theory I didn't want to go that nerdy. But the Batman pajamas I might have to post those you should, but they're comfortable.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't wear them very often.

Speaker 1:

I mean.

Speaker 2:

I wore them a couple of weeks ago because it was cold out.

Speaker 1:

I'm totally wearing for a live. Wear them in a live.

Speaker 2:

Joey's pajama party.

Speaker 1:

Yes, because I was going to do a dance party, so maybe we'll do a.

Speaker 2:

You were going to do a dance party. I was going to do a dance party coming up. Well, you know, we got one coming. I don't we're going to be doing one this Friday, but by the time this comes out it but I'll be putting it on the Well, friday night you'll be live.

Speaker 1:

Tell us about your live Friday night. We're planning.

Speaker 2:

It's Valentine's Day with Joey and Marnie, or Marnie and Joey from my Mindful Match so we're going to do a live and so we want everybody to join us who don't have anything special planned and I was never a big Valentine's Day guy I never was. It's just a hallmark day for me, for anybody. If you're in love, you're in love.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't mean you don't need a day to go to a restaurant and get crammed in and have a menu that you don't want to even enjoy, because they just cram you in and cram you out and they raise the price and it's just ridiculous, everything's it's it's just ridiculous have a special night when I was married um, married. Our Valentine's Day was we had pizza.

Speaker 1:

Did you yeah Heart shape?

Speaker 2:

No, no no, Because what happened was we bought our house. We closed on our house on Valentine's Day.

Speaker 3:

Oh nice.

Speaker 2:

Our first. We got the key on Valentine's, so we had a pizza and we sat in an empty house, and every year that's how we celebrated.

Speaker 1:

That's Day. That's very cool yeah.

Speaker 3:

So sweet.

Speaker 2:

Right, isn't it? Yeah, and it was very special without having to. And that's what Valentine's Day is, and especially now, people who might be alone for the first time. We don't want you to be alone. You know there's no reason to feel alone, no reason to feel down on yourself. Oh, mama, my son.

Speaker 1:

Forget that. No, join the dance party. Join the party. Get on board with us.

Speaker 2:

Join the dance party, you will have Marnie's going to set us up so that we can put like six people on there. Oh, you're going to do the yes, yes. So we can bring people on. So join us. Join us, so that'll be Friday night That'll be a blast. And then maybe Saturday we'll do Saturday night with Joey a dance party. I'm kind of liking this whole because you know, the other night I had music in the background.

Speaker 1:

You did, you did.

Speaker 2:

Did they write any requests? No, and then I realized I should have my Pandora going on my Google, because then I could quickly say hey, google, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Definitely do the request Throw on some Billy Joel.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, throw some Billy Joel on.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so we'll do that. So we'll do requests too.

Speaker 2:

So we're going to go into a commercial now. Okay, and this commercial break is sponsored by Provide Chiropractic Injury Center and I've been going to them for years. They helped me before my hip surgery If you knew me before, I was walking crooked and they do a great job, but they got something really cool coming out and we'll talk about that when we come out of the break. But this is sponsored by Brevard Chiropractic.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 3:

Yeah, let's go.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

It's really cool it sounds really cool. I'd like to check it out anyways. Yeah, no it it's, uh, it's a cool little machine, yeah non-invasive and and being it sounds like something you could even do on your lunch hour.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 2:

So now we talk about going cool and um, we'll get your blood flowing now with this, with this segment yes um, we're going to introduce you to two amazing ladies that I became friends with on tiktok right and they just love gia a lot of great information, yeah if you follow them.

Speaker 2:

That's my mindful match, uh, my dot, match dot. I think that's what it is, but we'll get it. It's up on the screen. I don't want to screw it up because they're so good. So we're going to run a little video for you and they're going to get. Marnie and Tiana are going to give you five top tips for us. For over 50 folk, it's kind of like a refresher course.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

And then we're going to discuss it. We're going to discuss it. We're going to come back discuss, yes, and then what we want from you guys is I want you guys to respond and tell us what you think or what some tips you should add, and we're just going to. Let's just sit back and watch this, or listen, depending where you are. So just enjoy it, because we laughed while we watched it.

Speaker 4:

Hi and congratulations to Gia and Joey for starting your podcast we are so happy to support. Thank you so much for having us. Yeah, we are Marnie Zhang Catalaro and Tiana Zhang, and we are my Mindful Match. We are expert matchmakers. We are relationship coaches, dating experts, and she is a licensed clinical psychotherapist who specialized in marriage and family counseling for many years. So today we've been asked by Gia and Joey to give you five dating tips for people over 50. Marnie, take it away. So the first one that I have is appropriate self-disclosure. Right, we have boundaries, and others have boundaries as well. Not everyone wants to hear everything that's going on, nor is it appropriate to disclose the first time you meet them or the first time you speak to them. These are some of the things that we actually work with our clients on before they go on their first date?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely so. With boundaries I mean, that comes down to well, do they like a morning phone call? Are they busy? Can they talk during the day? You know there's a lot of things with boundaries.

Speaker 3:

And they also mentioned disclosures.

Speaker 2:

And disclosures.

Speaker 3:

There's some things you shouldn't say on a first date.

Speaker 1:

That's yes.

Speaker 3:

Right so Gia. What would be like a red flag if somebody mentioned it on their first date?

Speaker 1:

Should I say it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, how many times a day you take care of yourself?

Speaker 3:

That's a little bit forward for a first date. That was extremely forward, so you don't mean.

Speaker 2:

That was like in the first part of the conversation, before I even was halfway done with my coffee.

Speaker 1:

Wow, and he wasn't talking about taking a bath, right? No, no, actually kind of detailed. Really the reasoning behind it, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Why it was interesting, I mean that's kind of.

Speaker 1:

I kind of just kept sipping my coffee.

Speaker 2:

You didn't leave that is boundaries? No, Wow a wall would go up with that.

Speaker 1:

It was entertaining.

Speaker 2:

So did you go on a second date.

Speaker 1:

No, oh no.

Speaker 3:

Oh, okay, no yeah but boundaries.

Speaker 1:

Boundaries is key. No, actually a nice guy too, he just clearly.

Speaker 3:

Something was on his mind he had to share. He did not know boundaries, he did not, and he was full disclosure right.

Speaker 1:

He wanted to fully disclose everything.

Speaker 3:

What about kids? You want to hear about kids on the first date. Yes, Joey, do you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think that's important. It tells me what type of a parent you are, what type of family person you are. For me, family is everything. As you know, jesse, you know how close I am with my family. So if a, if a partner is not close with family or doesn't understand the importance of family, that's a red flag to me all right family is everything.

Speaker 2:

For me, everything is family. So if you don't really get along with the family as well as what, I would think I got issues with that. But then again, you know, I am an italian guy. So family is everything. Yes, along with a chicken parm, but that's a whole nother. That's another.

Speaker 3:

It's a whole nother so what are things you wouldn't want to hear about somebody on their first date, exes or anything else? Do you want them to know their history?

Speaker 2:

Not on the first date, you know not so much you get into it. I mean there's probably going to be some preference before that.

Speaker 3:

Well, I'm sure these matchmakers probably have like a list of, like first date appropriate tips. Yeah, so I think what they mentioned is like this is what you want to avoid, right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And anyway. So I thought that was a. It's a whole lot of. I mean, it's like a very vague topic Like what to disclose and what not to. I'm sure if you went to these ladies they'd be very specific on things you should not disclose, maybe things that you know are OK to disclose, and then, of course, again setting the boundaries. Yeah, because I don't want to go on a date and find out.

Speaker 2:

Hey, by the way, my ex-husband is sitting behind us because he still doesn't trust me. I don't want to know that.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no.

Speaker 2:

And leave the drama at home. I mean the first date. You don't want to know drama. No, don't want drama in your life anyway, but if they're coming to the door, guy or girl being, you know, drama absolutely you don't want it, you don't want it, you don't, you don't want them it's, it's. You know, we're not their psychiatrist or psychologist, so we don't want to sit there and hear their tales of wells it should be light refreshing.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, see if there's that spark, right, if there's any chemistry, chemistry, yeah, and and just in this, keep it light just in this.

Speaker 3:

Keep it light. What do you do for fun? What are some hobbies, you know? Keep the conversation going, learning about each other. But I mean, yeah, I really don't want to know about any exes. I mean, you know, that's like more maybe third or fourth date as I'm like getting interested in you, then I'm probably going to be fishing for. Okay, why is this girl not taken? She's attractive, we have a good time, she seems likable. Why is she single?

Speaker 3:

what happened in the last relationship that you know maybe, yeah, maybe I need to know about or I'd like to know about, so I don't fall, fall into the same. You know, pit of despair that the you know her ex, uh, you know just got out of. So anyway, I'll move on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, let's go to number two.

Speaker 4:

Yeah. The second one is leave your shame at the door You've got. You cannot bring any shame to your game, none. You've got to just walk in there and be authentic and be who you are, whatever. So remember also shame is what others think of me, right, right, it's what I think others think of me. That's shame. Leave it at the door. It doesn't matter what anybody thinks of you. I want you guys just to be your most authentic selves.

Speaker 2:

Shame.

Speaker 1:

I don't. I think by our age aren't we kind of past that Kind?

Speaker 2:

of I would think so. I feel like it Because you're true to yourself at this point. Yeah, passed out, kind of I would. I feel like it because you're you're true to yourself at this point.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean we again. Why waste the time? I mean, once you're over 50, why do you waste time if it's not what you're looking for?

Speaker 3:

true, and not only that, but do you really want to, you know, disclose what you're probably most terrified of being found out, you know, by somebody else's you know? Does it, you know, just because it happened, you know, 10 years ago? Does that need to be disclosed right away, you know? Or is that something that you know may come up if you get really emotional watching a movie and then it may be like a discussion, but that may be like, you know, a month of dating in where you're like honey, tell me more about why this triggers you, and then they may be like well, this one time and then and then you could, like you know, reveal that onion right, I mean many layers to an onion, and so you just don't want to peel back all the layers on the first day and just be like the vulture.

Speaker 3:

Then I had a divorce and then I had this, and I'm wasn't really proud of not finishing college like whoa overload, like I I have to say I think jesse has, you know, some uh uh therapeutic um senses behind him I if that's the right word, or he's just been I've been on so many first dates that he's a freaking pro at this, because I have, I'm listening to him I have nothing to say.

Speaker 2:

I'm listening to him, you know.

Speaker 3:

Give us the explanation.

Speaker 2:

I'm like please do. Because, I don't have these horror stories, but you guys see Jesse's done online dating.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, see, I've never done online dating and I don't know if that's, I think that's part of it. I wouldn't even recommend online dating.

Speaker 2:

No, I wouldn't either. That's so opposite of how we should be communicating in society, and I think texting has changed the world as well in dating, but that's for a separate subject. So let's move to number three.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because I have this whole thing about communicating today.

Speaker 3:

Yes, we can tell Joey.

Speaker 2:

You can't even silence a phone.

Speaker 4:

I'm kidding, all right. Right, let's go to three. Be authentic. Okay. If you meet somebody and they like to actively ski, don't pretend like you like to. It's okay to say you know what? I don't ski, but I love to sit in a lodge and read a book, correct? Don't be something you're not right from the gate. You're setting yourself up for failure absolutely. And stand in your truth and be proud of who you are. There's nothing more attractive than that. That's right. That's another great dating tip.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it took you a long time to get there.

Speaker 1:

Own it Correct. Good yeah If you, if you're not yourself and you, you, you can't even know for sure that that's a person you want to go one more date with.

Speaker 2:

No, that's true. I mean Gia and I. We had lunch the other day and I was late as usual and she's sitting out in the sun. She had nachos with guacamole but she's sitting in the sun, the sun is beating down on that guacamole and I, just, I, just there was just something about it, and I just walked up to her and I point blank said this doesn't work for me.

Speaker 1:

And we're going to have lunch. We're going to eat outside. He doesn't eat in the sun.

Speaker 2:

I don't eat in the sun. I need the shade to cover my food, and that was that was. Yes, that's just how it, is it just?

Speaker 1:

skeeved me right off the bat. It is but that. But that's something that you would want to know on that. You know, if somebody was dating you, you would want them to for sure know.

Speaker 2:

So next time you met up they wouldn't be in that, you know right and if you're going to tell me you want to go hiking, well, that's good, because enjoy yourself. I'll wait for you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, this is why we're platonic friends.

Speaker 2:

Joey, don't hike Opposites, yeah, no, I don't hike.

Speaker 1:

I'll be hiking in the sun. Give me a golf cart and eating on my way.

Speaker 2:

I don't even like getting out of the golf cart to hit my ball. Oh no, what about?

Speaker 3:

politics On a first date, if they bring it up and then all of a sudden you say, um, I would say, if you met in and maybe like a community or or a mutual friend who shared similar interests, got, got, got, you know, maybe like matched you, oh, my friend so and so says that, oh, oh, well, that if that person you know referred me, and then, because they probably know of my leanings, in which case, yeah, let's share, because I mean, that's, that's going to be a you know, for for some people that's a big deal, it's me.

Speaker 3:

And then because they probably know of my leanings, in which case, yeah, let's share because I mean, that's that's going to be a you know, for for some people that's a big deal, it's a part of their you know who they are. I mean, some people really identify with their political party and, um, and certainly you know, I think it's all in the context you know, if you met going to a rally or a uh you know, maybe like a school board meeting or whatever else, and you shared similar interests, like, oh my gosh, we have, you know all this, you know all of this interest, right, that's common then maybe we can also find other interests you know, besides.

Speaker 3:

Just, you know, on this dimension, you know, which is, you know, fighting for whatever you know student or teacher rights, whatever you may be you know besides, just you know, on this dimension you know, which is you know fighting for whatever you know, student or teacher rights whatever, whatever you may be you know in that setting. So I would say, follow through with how you guys met or who maybe matched you, and then decide if that's going to be a you know something appropriate or not.

Speaker 2:

I really think, jesse I do too, but I think jesse needs to hang a shingle outside. I think he he's very good at this.

Speaker 1:

He's very good, I know.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 3:

I've been on a lot of podcasts and I've sat across the table from a lot of people with this discussion, because dating I feel like it's just a hot topic and a lot of people share a lot of insights and there's authors. I mean, there's books written about this stuff.

Speaker 3:

guys, yeah, I just books written about this stuff guys and yeah, I mean, I've heard and I've also been on a dating scene and and these are all just common truths. You know, I mean as a gen xer, this is all things that that I've seen, you know through my, through my lens interesting.

Speaker 2:

Okay, what are we on number four? You? Want to go back to the video yeah, let's go to the videotape fourth dress your age.

Speaker 3:

Dress your age, ladies and gentlemen and gentlemen, all of us dress your of us.

Speaker 4:

Dress your age Right. I mean dress appropriately, but also dress respectfully. Get dressed for your date. Put on shoes, gentlemen, please. No. Crocs, no. We don't want to hear one more date, first date of a gentleman in Crocs. Nobody wants to see your feet Ever, never, no.

Speaker 3:

And lastly, All right, so no Crocs.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 3:

Crocs.

Speaker 1:

No, no man feet Okay.

Speaker 3:

What about flip flops? It's Florida. Well, it depends where you're going.

Speaker 1:

Well see, I'm down with that, if you're down by the.

Speaker 2:

But it depends where you're going.

Speaker 1:

It does depend where you're going, that is true.

Speaker 3:

Especially in Florida, some of the best first dates are just a beachfront restaurant.

Speaker 1:

I agree, because guess what?

Speaker 3:

If things turn sour, I'm going to go look for some seashells on the seashore and never come back, and down the shore you go.

Speaker 2:

Now I'm jumping in. This is the old guy now.

Speaker 1:

You know what my biggest?

Speaker 2:

pet peeve is what's that Baseball hats? I love baseball hats, but I don't want to see you wearing a baseball hat in a nice restaurant.

Speaker 2:

It's not a sports bar, but you see it all the time and it pisses me off. I was in a hotel. I was in the Venetian Hotel. I was at a four-star restaurant In that hotel. The waiters in tuxedos. I'm dressed, my date was dressed, we were looking sharp. I walk in and there's this real gavoon, as we would say, and a frigging baseball hat. It irked me like you wouldn't believe. I wanted to just get up and say take your frigging hat off.

Speaker 1:

Now, I know that's not a date. Now was it a young person? No, it was an old guy.

Speaker 2:

It was an old guy, oh well, but still I have this thing. Do not wear a baseball hat on a date, unless you're going to a ball game, you're at a sports bar or you're sitting outside. But if you walk in you take the hat off. Fair enough.

Speaker 3:

Well, maybe you had some receding hairline issue. Well, look at me.

Speaker 2:

I don't have any freaking hair. I ain't wearing a hat.

Speaker 3:

But you don't have any issues. Some guys who first you know are having a receding hairline or hair loss. They may be filled.

Speaker 2:

But then that goes back to disclosure.

Speaker 4:

Right, right.

Speaker 2:

If you've just been texting and you don't see a picture. Ah, so there's disclosure and we go to shame. Oh, look at how this is all circling back.

Speaker 1:

Well, addressing your age is important. I think. Right, I mean, like I said, that's why I asked if it was a younger person, because the younger people, they. It's different, it is the generations are different yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's respect, you don't wear a hat in a restaurant okay.

Speaker 3:

Well, I think the audience got that from you guys you know, noted don't wear a hat in front of Joey at a restaurant no, he's gonna take it off your head, but I you know, I like my flip-flops too, but I don't think I'd wear it on a date okay, even

Speaker 1:

the beach like beach restaurant like no, no, probably not tying it.

Speaker 3:

Tying in two of these tips, okay disclosure and dressing your age or, appropriately, when can a guy expect a female? I'm going to put some pressure on the females because they do get dolled up quite a bit. They don't fully disclose exactly what they look like with push-up bras, high heels, extensions, lots of makeup. You know I mean you apply all of these extras, extras, extras, and then we do take you to a beach that you don't have your makeup. It would be faux pas to be all dolled up when you're going to walk the beach and get sandy toes, right.

Speaker 3:

So that's why I also like a beach date, because I don't want to see version of you, you know, all made up and dolled up and everything else. I want to see the A version of you that I'm going to wake up to next, you know, like, for a lot of mornings Hopefully, you know, things go well in our relationship. I want to, you know, I want you to be your authentic self Sans, you know, the push-up bras, the. You know, the Spanx, the. You know they have. I mean, there's so many things.

Speaker 3:

It's like you, bring a six-foot model home. She gets off her high heels and everything else and all of a sudden there's no eyelashes. It's like what happened to you. You're 5'4".

Speaker 2:

Well, you know that was a Seinfeld episode, but it happens in life, you want to recognize them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you would, but in life you want to recognize them?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you would, but don't you think that would be disclosed again before you went out? And we're going oh, we're going to go on the beach.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to make a picnic on the beach. She's not going to be wearing six foot.

Speaker 1:

She's not going to be wearing six inch heels on the beach, but that's why he was suggesting that a good first date is a place, casual setting, a casual rendezvous yes.

Speaker 3:

I'll bring some cheese and maybe some smoked meat or something you know, like just a little charcuterie board, just something small, or even just a fruit basket, like I'm not going to get terribly invested in a first date because I want to get to know you.

Speaker 3:

I don't want you to just be like you know. I'm sure I could take you to a very formal. You know sit down, nice, you know dinner and you can act appropriately. That may be a test. Maybe, like you know, third, fourth day, do I want to show her parents? Does she have good manners? Then maybe I'll take it to a formal setting and see how you you know, but I'm going to invest in that. Once I really, you know, as I'm turning the pages and learning about you, then I may want to, then I'm going to inquire even more, you know, does she have?

Speaker 1:

manners? Is she polite? Can I introduce her to my parents? Yes, interesting. No, I like that. No, I like that a lot.

Speaker 2:

So with that, if you had an afternoon date, you would be less formal, right? Wouldn't that be a little?

Speaker 1:

bit. I think it's a good way to get to know somebody. I think a lunch date is better.

Speaker 2:

I think a lunch date is better.

Speaker 3:

I think a lunch date is much better than a dinner date, and girls will agree they're like great, because I don't want to be tied down for dinner, because I want to go with my girlfriends.

Speaker 1:

And it's more comfortable meeting someone new late and guess what If you hit it off for lunch? You're going to go for drinks.

Speaker 2:

I'm sending you home. It's a marathon day. You're going to shower.

Speaker 3:

I mean it may become a formal night. I mean, if we're hitting off and you are just a doll to be around with and I don't want that day to end. We're doing dinner, we're doing the desserts, we're going to do all the things.

Speaker 2:

We did that.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to fit in that whole day. I don't want you to leave. No, like I'm falling for you already I like that.

Speaker 3:

And so, yeah, and that's why lunch. That's why lunch, and also for the gentlemen if you're doing lots of first dates, it's really expensive to do. You know, take a girl to the high-end restaurant every night and then guess what? You're going to be that bachelor who takes all these girls on a first date to a high-end restaurant. The maitre d's are going to laugh at you, the bartenders are going to laugh at you. Like man, this guy just keeps on blowing $200 dates, but with different girls all the time.

Speaker 2:

Charlie Harper, don't you watch Two and a Half Men?

Speaker 3:

Either you're a player or you don't have any conservative money, or you just you know, maybe you just need to start with a lunch, or you just can't get past the first date. Well, yeah, exactly, it may be something inherently bad with you, but at the end of the day, people are going to be talking like man, this guy just has a lot of girlfriends, and then is that really the image you want either, right, I don't know, I just have. I could have arguments on both sides, but I think a lunch date is the best.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I agree, I agree, I don't go for that coffee thing?

Speaker 2:

Because what are you going to do? Are you going to put your name on the side of a cup?

Speaker 3:

I mean, can't remember their name. That's always good, but I'm not big on the coffee. I like a lunch. I think coffee's cliche. I think, hey, I'll grab some coffees, what do you drink? And? And then let's go to a park, let's go to somewhere quiet. I don't want crowds, especially a busy coffee shop. You know, I think people are coming in, people are hollering other people's names. Charlie, it was very distracting.

Speaker 1:

And then you got the yanni music playing, distracting and quite aloud. It's, it's obnoxious. I'm trying to learn about you.

Speaker 3:

I want to look in your eyes. I want to hold your hand. You know, what I'm saying, but I don't want interruptions Like sorry, can I borrow that salt shaker? No, get away from me, bro.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's really nowhere to talk.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, take her to. I mean, of course, a setting that she feels comfortable with, you know I mean, but that's why I recommend beaches, lots of people lots of visibility.

Speaker 3:

It's daylight. You're not asking, you know you're not escorting her from you know a dark parking garage to a restaurant or a restaurant to a parking garage where you know. So, for safety for the ladies as well, I appreciate a guy saying let's do lunch, great, I'll have some friends on standby, because if it doesn't work out then I'm in my bikini, I'm going to go meet some friends at my Plan B and the girls have a Plan B, the guys I'm sure do. They're like well, if this doesn't work out, I'm going to grab my surfboard out of the truck and hit some waves, yep exactly.

Speaker 4:

So, there's an easy exit.

Speaker 3:

It's a casual thing. You don't have to be embarrassed Like know about your ex and they stand up and storm out and they got a you know 40 plate in front of them that they just uh, abandoned. Um, you know, just, it's. It's just a great place to learn so there's no strings attached.

Speaker 1:

So if you're doing comfortable, I think talking about yourself and being more authentically yourself than in a formal setting, okay, so we'll go back.

Speaker 2:

So if you're doing that first date and it's a beach date and jesse wants to his flip-flops, do you go for a pedi also so that your feet and your nails don't look all skanky?

Speaker 3:

I love a good pedicure, but I take care of my feet on my own.

Speaker 2:

I understand that my feet are beautiful. I'm just asking.

Speaker 3:

I'm wearing flip-flops now. I have beautiful feet. I am very proud of my feet. All right, let's go to number five. No fungus, no nothing.

Speaker 2:

Before we go into number, before we look at Jesse's feet, Lord, because I'm a foot guy.

Speaker 3:

I do like some feet. Oh, you're a sick foot In my mouth.

Speaker 4:

Communicate your wants and needs. Really communicate your wants and needs. People are not mind readers, right, and so oftentimes it's that lack of communication that trips people up in relationships. The other piece to that, though, is identify what your wants and needs are. That's where we come in absolutely yeah all right, gee and joey have a great show and we can't wait to work with you.

Speaker 3:

Bye guys and, uh, that was nice. Yeah, that was nice. Yeah, so I think that was the last bit was like a little bit more of a plug. They really want to help you get match made and, honestly, a match made service, I mean going back to investing in yourself, you know. I mean, they've already screened these people for you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, At least you know they're not serial killers.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, they're vented, vented, vetted, vetted, they're vetted and they can at least match up those basic interests.

Speaker 3:

Beginning. So again, to recap, one was disclosures and boundaries. Two leave your shame at the door. Don't bring your luggage. Nobody wants baggage. Be authentic. Don't BS Again the analogy. You know, don't dress up as our favorite sports teams or as their example. You know, don't say you ski and you never skied in your life. Dress your age Again. Joey got really PO'd about people in restaurants wearing baseball caps or sitting in the sun Food in the sun.

Speaker 2:

Food in the sun.

Speaker 3:

Yes, food in the sun? Don't wear food in the sun. Communicate your needs and wants. Yeah, boy, we don't. I don't think most people know what they need or want At the time.

Speaker 2:

Have you go ahead? No at the time you know you're out on a date, so you're looking for companionship. And that's different too at this age as well. You know your priorities are different. You know it comes down to companionship, um. Do you share the same interest? It's not all. You know um hanky panky kind of thing.

Speaker 3:

When you're younger, you know wow, this one's hot now you get older, it's more into the companionship.

Speaker 2:

Do we get along, um? Would my kids like this girl? Would my kids like him? You know right, because, because I guess it's what called blended. So what are the needs and wants? Where do you want to go? Do you just want to date perpetually or do you want to? You know, is this, is this going to be a permanent?

Speaker 1:

man, but is that something for the first date?

Speaker 2:

Well, some people say look, I want to go, would that? Say I want to go slow. Is that a want or is that a need? Right up front?

Speaker 3:

I like you but I want to go slow. That sounds less of a desire and more of them just like pumping the brakes because they emotionally need that time to calculate things. I mean, some people just are slow to emotionally develop and that's all that means. When they want to pump the brakes, they may like you, but a kiss right now, when there's other things that you know. That may be like really playing mind games with them and they just saw their shrink or whatever, and maybe they were like, listen, don't get romantically involved just yet. You always move so fast. I need you to stop moving so fast. And so it may be like an existential pressure that they're receiving that makes them, you know, want to back off a little bit, just because they've always been so forward and they've let their heart get broken over over again. So they may be trying to break a trend.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but number five, that's a good one. That's a good one for people to check in email and I like that and also wants at once what's the one? Do you have two kids? What?

Speaker 1:

are you looking for?

Speaker 3:

what like how many days can we actually see each other when you're not? Yes with a kid, because if I, if you're a guy, like I mean if I'm with a girl I need to see her all the time yeah well, if that's gonna break you know, your, your needs, then maybe that's not gonna work out either.

Speaker 3:

Or, and again, if it's a traveling nurse and you're not gonna see her all this time, and or if you're a firefighter and you got to, you know, and you're up in the firehouse, you know, four days a week, whatever else you know. Um, yeah, definitely share these things because, again, people you know, going forward, in the first couple dates it may, may, you know, they don't need to see all the time. But then when you start like really getting attracted to somebody and you just, you just don't want to be separated at all. And if you are, it's like anxiety, like when do you get off work?

Speaker 3:

I want to see you. I miss you. I have these plans, I got something to show you, I'm excited about our date. And if that person is just reclusive and just yeah, I would say spell it out as much as possible. I always preface like I have a high libido. You, I always preface like I have a high libido. You have to love sex. You have to love, you have to and you have to be generous.

Speaker 2:

Can we edit that out, in case my mother's listening Because I'm generous?

Speaker 3:

No, because this is.

Speaker 2:

You slut, freaking whore. You slut. See, we just learned. Jesse just disclosed that he's a whore. No, that's not the same thing.

Speaker 3:

No, it's not the same thing, because I prefer lots of One activity with one person. I don't need Lots of activity with multiple people, and that's a difference. But if you're going to share a bed with me, just Be up for anything, be adventurous.

Speaker 2:

Let me ask you a question you whore, I don't know I'm like what Did I just enter a confessional?

Speaker 1:

It sounds like it. Tell me more about your sins.

Speaker 3:

I'm waiting for the question Well, did you ever?

Speaker 2:

see, I'm going to age. No, I don't want to go into a different path, but actually what Jesse just said brings you back to number one, Because Jesse just said to disclose hey, I want to see you because I'm a male whore and I have to keep away from you know I'm kidding, but does that go to number one? Back to disclosure of what that was. Is that part of disclosure?

Speaker 3:

That I like to see you. You know, time, like how much time it's all in timing.

Speaker 2:

Or is that just something that you ease into as the chemistry?

Speaker 1:

develops and you start to realize someone has a full life. Your life is full busy all the time career, family, this and that, but, and you just want a companionship when you want it.

Speaker 3:

That would be a different situation than someone wants to see someone you know that has that a need and that goes back to, like you know, spend time. Maybe she does have like four kids and she is a full-time mom and she will never. You will never come first. You will never come first. You will never come first because she's told you over and over again.

Speaker 3:

So get through your head she's a mom of four dude don't expect her to drop all her obligations and make all this time for you. You're going to fit in where you fit in and again, if you're not comfortable again, then maybe a single mom isn't what you need. Maybe you need someone else. You know who?

Speaker 1:

isn't not a parent, not a single mom Right.

Speaker 3:

You know you've got to choose. You know not only the person, but also you know where they're at in life. And if that's compatible, then make it happen. Jump right in, become a Brady Bunch. I'll bring my three kids, you've got your three kids and we'll live the Brady Bunch fantasy. But it has to be work, it has to be compatible, but it's probably still not first-day things. All I want to do is know what makes you laugh, know what makes you tick and decide if I can make you excited, make you laugh and fit into where you are at. You know and your current adventures and your current lifestyle, because I don't ever want to have to modify my lifestyle to you know, alter it and give up something Like I like to golf. What do you like to do? Oh, you don't have any hobbies. So what do you like to do? Oh, you don't have any hobbies. So what are you going to do while I golf? You're gonna sit at home and pace back and forth.

Speaker 1:

No, I don't want that I don't want that person because golf could be six hours. You're not doing something together.

Speaker 3:

You want them to be busy with no, no I need somebody who has a full life as well. Yes, but again, but if, all but of all, you know again, if but I'm a retired, uh male, which you know, eventually I'd like to be, um, I'm gonna have all the time in the world and maybe I don't want to wait but maybe I want to take you golfing and do things that we could both do all the time, because we have no other expectations.

Speaker 3:

No, there's no one else. You know, I don't have a job to clock into. I don't have any, anybody that needs my time, so I'm going to be just spontaneous, and I need somebody else to be spontaneous too.

Speaker 2:

Right, but that's the interesting point, because the emphasis of our program is people over 50, 55, and a lot of people are retired.

Speaker 1:

Right with grandkids.

Speaker 2:

So they just have grandkids because their parenting is pretty much see Jesse's 47, so he's kind of on that cusp.

Speaker 3:

Way to throw out my middle age bro.

Speaker 2:

I came right out and said I was 63. Well, yeah, but it's your show. Okay, but here's my question.

Speaker 3:

So at that age, I'm trying to seduce your audience into thinking I'm only 33. Seduce my audience, I'm kidding.

Speaker 2:

I told you he was a whore. I'm happy in a relationship. I absolutely adore and love my girlfriend here we go Good God, oh God, oh God.

Speaker 1:

That was definitely the right thing to say. Oh, he's good.

Speaker 2:

He's smooth.

Speaker 1:

He's a smooth talker.

Speaker 2:

You're a smooth talker. Very good, you're a smooth talker, you are, you are.

Speaker 3:

But I'm just like everybody else. He's a whore Talking into a mic.

Speaker 2:

But so at our age, you know, people are retired, I mean they are, so they have a little bit more time.

Speaker 1:

So are they more of a homebody, like Jesse said? Do they want to travel? But again, is your life full? Because you don't want someone who's constantly. If your life is full and the other person is not, you don't want them constantly kind of just following you.

Speaker 2:

I would say. So where does napping fit in? Who naps? Well, I do. It's a key essence. It's healthy.

Speaker 1:

That's good. No, that's very good.

Speaker 3:

Find a fellow napper who likes to snuggle. Fellow napper. We're back to show tunes again.

Speaker 1:

Well, you would want somebody, that's interested Anyway.

Speaker 2:

so these are some great tips. I want to thank Tiana and. Marnie from my Mindful Match. That was a great first segment for us. We're going to wrap it up. We want to thank everybody and thank you.

Speaker 1:

Jessie, Thank you.

Speaker 2:

Jessie on the board for keeping us flowing, because someone here has a tendency to ramble.

Speaker 1:

I don't know who that is.

Speaker 2:

We just want to thank everybody for joining us on our first show. Check out our TikToks and we'll have where you can find us. We'll be on youtube, our email yes, we're gonna be everywhere, we'll be everywhere for you and please follow us. I need the followers, please. That's very important, yes, so goodbye everybody thank you very much ciao.

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